Power Questions pt. 2

[Ares]

Power Questions

This thread is for all kinds of questions about powers. For example:
Archetypes and their powers
Dark Gifts
Spells
Costum Powers
Sekhmet's Gifts
Power usage of other players (should you wonder if they can really do what they're doing)
Questions that don't fit into any of the aforementioned categories should be posed in a Legion leader's office. Please also check the Power FAQ (http://www.midnight-shadows.org/showthread.php?t=2610) to see if your question might have already been answered.

[Mister Sunday]

Thanks for the previous help on the questions, Aod. Forgot to include one other question.

Air.
1. The new Pt states we can create a continuous stream of air for flight/levitation, which I greatly greatly greatly appreciate and love. Would it be pushing it to use that stream offensively to pin someone in place? :-p

[Ares]

Nope, you should be easily able to pin someone in place using a steady flow of air.

[Ramses]

If I have my clone out, could both me and my clone summon five animals each? Of course, most of them just for defense, because of the 2 vs 1 rule, but, still, could them?

Is a gorilla, a lion, or a horse above my size quota? Cause it says "You can summon up to "level number" of animals" and Im guessing they have to be level-sized, which for my level is about the size of a car... Or is any animal with no level sizes?

If I summon an animal, can someone use telepathy on it and it would go over my animal control?

[Unforgiving]

If I summon an animal, can someone use telepathy on it and it would go over my animal control?

Im assuming summoning has the same control you used to have over the zombies back in FGB. So, the way I was told is that your own control overrides any Psionic/telepathy orders that may have been placed. I hope that still stands :$

[Iron Man]

If I have my clone out, could both me and my clone summon five animals each? Of course, most of them just for defense, because of the 2 vs 1 rule, but, still, could them? If you want to create a zoo in the arena, I'd say you could that way :nod:

Is a gorilla, a lion, or a horse above my size quota? Cause it says "You can summon up to "level number" of animals" and Im guessing they have to be level-sized, which for my level is about the size of a car... Or is any animal with no level sizes? Level-size applies, and a gorilla, a lion or a horse (of normal size) would be totally in your level-size.

If I summon an animal, can someone use telepathy on it and it would go over my animal control? You could of course use the psychic rapport Animal Control entails to regain the control over the animal. :nod:

[Stereo Love]

With Meteor, once I form a rock in my hand what is the damage that the rock and gas can do?

[Iron Man]

With Meteor, once I form a rock in my hand what is the damage that the rock and gas can do?The rock is just rock, what makes it so dangerous are the gases and the momentum of the projectile :nod: The gas is hot and causes breathing trouble, choking and possibly sickness when an opponent is exposed to it too long.

[Stereo Love]

Coolies, Thanks Chrissie. BTW, we can't change our current level powers within a certain time frame can we? :D

[Iron Man]

No, ADA does not feature that.

[Stereo Love]

That's cool, just wanted to find that out and clear it up :D

Sorry to double post but I need help and wanted someone to notice the thread.

Q: With that black widow, would I be able to place a glass weapon on the end of the tendril and use it like a whip type weapon?

[Iron Man]

Q: With that black widow, would I be able to place a glass weapon on the end of the tendril and use it like a whip type weapon?Absolutely :nod:

[Tainted Soul]

Voodoo: Now, we can make people feel pain and control actions, but are we allow to take over their voice as well? Some voodoo dolls can do this if you whisper it in their ear and it will come out of the voice of the effected person. Can we do that here?

Please say yes, please say yes

[Selene]

I re-read the power table as it's currently posted in the Archetypes thread and Voodoo doesn't control actions. Voodoo just allows you to inflict pain or magical attacks.

So nope, you can't do the voice thing nor control their limbs/powers/whatever.

[imported_Psychotic]

ok so the wraith blade....im lost. even by reading the description im lost so please someone help me lol :-p im dumb but please dont judge me hee hee

didn't realise soz. its just the whole it isn't a weapon but its a power, but if u use it with for eg. ice, it freezes, itsn't that classed as a weapon? if u cud just explain it would be great. thanks :-p

[Ares]

The Wraith Blade is classed as a power and not as a weapon because it takes up your power quota to use it. It, in itself, wasn't supposed to be viewed as an actual metal blade and more like this (http://www.nosgoth2.net/Defiance/images/Dpromo15.jpg). When imbued with ice then whatever the thing hits, freezes. But it's the same for an ice-blast and that's not counted as a weapon.

Sorry if that didn't answer your question but if you want me to clarify any other aspects please feel free to post.

[imported_Psychotic]

u know that picture makes it look kinda pretty lol. i'm easily pleased it fine lol ok that makes it a little easier to understand. thanks

[Collision Course]

I'm not overly sure about this attack/combo's validity, so I'll check it prior to using it.

If I was to use Air to levitate myself would I be able to shoot a light blast at someone whilst in the air at my Level (One)? Or is that going over quota?

[Stereo Love]

With Magnetism, could I control the iron in the blood? Kinda hold someone up in mid air as a telekinetic kind of hold?

[Zendatha]

With Time Manipulation, what can I set to rewind? I see projectiles, but is it limited to just projectiles, or can other attacks be set to rewind, for example, someone made a Lightning Storm in the area, can I rewind time so that the lightning storm will disappear, or just rewind the lightning bolts that are shot at me?

In a time loop, what exactly happens. For example, my opponent made a rising uppercut, and at that point, before it hits me, I put him in a time loop. What happens then?

ETA
Are VQ's counted in the 9 Neutral grounds threads needed for Promotion? Having 9 fight threads in Neutral grounds seems to be a lot. :chin:

[Tainted Soul]

If I was to use Air to levitate myself would I be able to shoot a light blast at someone whilst in the air at my Level (One)? Or is that going over quota?

If you use the blast of air to levitate you first (to avoid an attack) then send a blast of air, then yes. If you use it just as an attack, then no.

With Magnetism, could I control the iron in the blood? Kinda hold someone up in mid air as a telekinetic kind of hold?

I'm not sure...I don't think you can.

With Time Manipulation, what can I set to rewind? I see projectiles, but is it limited to just projectiles, or can other attacks be set to rewind, for example, someone made a Lightning Storm in the area, can I rewind time so that the lightning storm will disappear, or just rewind the lightning bolts that are shot at me?

No to the ligthening storm but yes to the bolt of lightening, if shot from the owner towards you. Basically you just rewind it back towards them as if it never happened. The attack won't hurt them though. From what I see, its only limited to projectiles shot towards you. Nothing like reversing a storm. :nod:

In a time loop, what exactly happens. For example, my opponent made a rising uppercut, and at that point, before it hits me, I put him in a time loop. What happens then?

It just means that the person will continue doing that raising uppercut till however long you make it last. :nod: For instance a person trips and fall, you can put them in a time loop to where they trip and fall for say, 4 posts, and they won't be able to stop themselves.

Excuse answering the questions but I knew some of them. :$

[Iron Man]

If I was to use Air to levitate myself would I be able to shoot a light blast at someone whilst in the air at my Level (One)? Or is that going over quota? If the levitation is defense, you can - because then you can use one as defense, the other as offense. As you get a separate quota for each, that's make it possible.

With Magnetism, could I control the iron in the blood? Kinda hold someone up in mid air as a telekinetic kind of hold? No. That aspect is now a part of the EMP power :nod: Electro Magnetic Pulse.

Confirmation on Time Manip, will come shortly :nod:

Bri - thanks for trying to answer those, but one way or another, a warlord will have to reply for confirmation anyway ;)

[Selene]

With Time Manipulation, what can I set to rewind? I see projectiles, but is it limited to just projectiles, or can other attacks be set to rewind, for example, someone made a Lightning Storm in the area, can I rewind time so that the lightning storm will disappear, or just rewind the lightning bolts that are shot at me?
The projectiles was just an example (has the words For instance before it). You can practically rewind time for any attacks made you as long as you can perceive them. So you won't be able to reverse Telepathy lets say but the Storm is just fine. Is the difference clear enough?

In a time loop, what exactly happens. For example, my opponent made a rising uppercut, and at that point, before it hits me, I put him in a time loop. What happens then?

Your opponent did some actions in his last post. Before the uppercut he probably defended himself or something? Well for the next (X) number of posts they will repeat the exact actions performed in that post till the point you initiated the time loop. If you initiated the time loop right before the uppercut made contact with you then for the next few posts all their posts will end at the upper cut.


ETA
Are VQ's counted in the 9 Neutral grounds threads needed for Promotion? Having 9 fight threads in Neutral grounds seems to be a lot. :chin:

The 9 Neutral Grounds threads isn't refering to fights. It's fighting/RP/venues. Later on you see how you need at least 6 Inferno or OoO? That covers the fighting. The 9 Neutral Grounds threads is there to underline that WWD participation is a great concern to us for promotion. Go in Havoc if you fancy or have a VQ. At that level your character should anyway be more about RPing than fights;)

[Zendatha]

Oooh, now I gets it! VQ's are counted towards Neutral Grounds participation, and not just 9 fight threads! :D Way cool! Thanks for that information.

Same with Time Manip, wanted to clarify that coz its a tad bit confusing as to what can be time-reversed and all. :bounce:

Question on Solid Aura:

- Is it only limited to solid objects, like rock, stone, wood, metal, or does it also encompass energy attacks like ice, fire, energy blasts? I read somewhere in the Questions thread that elemental attacks and energy attacks fall under the 'Solid Powers' category...

Question on Gravity Shields:

- So we can trap level number of people, in my case, five people. They can still move around while trapped, but in this case, they have to move in one general direction, right? Also, since it says that the gravity inside the shield is shifted, the opponents trapped there are floating, so unless they have levitation or flight, they cannot move away from the spot they were trapped at, right?

[Gemini Six]

I have some questions about wraith blade

Does it act like a real sword? I was told that it can cut but is it an actual solid substance?

[Stereo Love]

The Wrath Blade Is not an actual solid object, from the powertables it's kind of like a fire form. I think : drunk :

[Zendatha]

The Wraith Blade is classed as a power and not as a weapon because it takes up your power quota to use it. It, in itself, wasn't supposed to be viewed as an actual metal blade and more like this (http://www.nosgoth2.net/Defiance/images/Dpromo15.jpg). When imbued with ice then whatever the thing hits, freezes. But it's the same for an ice-blast and that's not counted as a weapon.

Sorry if that didn't answer your question but if you want me to clarify any other aspects please feel free to post.

The Wraith Blade question had been answered by Warlord Ares in the previous page. ;) Try reading back to check if your question had already been asked before. :nod:

[Gemini Six]

Oh, I saw that. I guess Im just having a hard time understanding how it can cut, but not really be solid.

Thanks! :)

[Zendatha]

Uhm, I guess you have heard of laser cutters used in industrial centers, like those they used to cut diamond? Or even Lightsabers from the Star Wars movies? They aren't solid, but they have the ability to cut, due to heat.

The Wraith Blade might not have heat to cut, but it follows the same principle. On its own, it takes the shape of a weapon, which can magically cut like a real sword, but when imbued with other forms of magic, manifests the effects of the magic (in the example, ice) that you imbued with each strike. ;)

[Ellestrial]

I've been putting together my biography for my character and trying to think ahead of what powers and gifts I'd like to give her for each level promotion. Somewhere along the lines, I'd like her to be able to clone. My question is this:

Can my original character be one archetype and her clone have a different archetype? If the clone can be a different archetype, would the clone have their own powers or would they still mimic the original character's powers? Also, is it possible to create more than one clone (not using them at the same time fighting, of course)? Ooh, and one more...Can the clone be a character of their own, that I could use them in fights without the original character?

Sorry for all the questions. I wanted to make sure I was fully understanding the limits within this gift before I definitely decided that it was one I wanted to get. Thanks.

[Ares]

1. The clone must retain all powers/archetype of the original character. It can not have any other powers.

2. You may only create one clone at a time.

3. A clone can be a character of their own. With the same powers as the original caster.

[Metan]

Ok, seeing as how Ares and all the other mods, admins, and guides are just too simply busy to anser my question, I will instead post it here:

I have been inactive for a VERY LONG TIME. I'm new to all these new 7 sins thing.
In the past I was a lvl 1 Energist. So, my question is if I have to remake my character and restart with lvl Trainee.

[Thor]

Maybe it's just me but I find that first sentence kinda rude :\ Anyways if you were already part of the game and you didn't switch sides during the merger you don't have to restart as a trainee and you can keep your current character only thing you have to do is rewrite his/hers bio to fit the current premise.

[Jinx]

Ok, seeing as how Ares and all the other mods, admins, and guides are just too simply busy to anser my question, I will instead post it here:

I have been inactive for a VERY LONG TIME. I'm new to all these new 7 sins thing.
In the past I was a lvl 1 Energist. So, my question is if I have to remake my character and restart with lvl Trainee.




The first part of your post was simply not necessary at all. All you needed to do was post your question without the color commentary.


Anyway, yeah, exactly what Ellen said about your question.

[Ares]

Ok, seeing as how Ares and all the other mods, admins, and guides are just too simply busy to anser my question, I will instead post it here:

I have been inactive for a VERY LONG TIME. I'm new to all these new 7 sins thing.
In the past I was a lvl 1 Energist. So, my question is if I have to remake my character and restart with lvl Trainee.

I apologize. I've been very busy lately, as it happens, being within my final year of a BA and been trying my hardest to keep up with PM requests. Regrettably yours and another person's recently slipped through the cracks.

I believe your question was answered.

But just for clarification; you keep your level but must rechoose your powerscope.

[Collision Course]

I'm not overly sure, but this is what I think about Cloning in response to your queries.

1. I doubt it. I would think if you were a Lust Archetype, your clone would have to be as well.

2. Since I doubt different archetypes are allowed, I'd imagine that they would not have their own scope of powers.

3. Yeah, I think it is OK to have more than one clone to choose from as long as you only bring out one at a time.

4. Again, I don't think so. Because the clone is out for a timed amount (dependant on level), you would need the original character around.

Hoped that helped somewhat :)

[The Carer]

My question is abotu my Archtype power - Animal Affinity. I've just claimed it recently and then noticed among people that they set it clear which animal they use. Like feline and such. I was wondering do you set yourself a single animal for it and does get to be in the size of a labrador dog or in the size of a full grown pantera, since I'm level 1?

[Monster]

I have a power question, its more about the system than powers.

It says you can choose 3 minimum Archetype powers and more if you so wish what is your limit on them? same question allies to Dark Gifts.

[Iron Man]

Max of Archetype powers: 12
Max of Dark Gifts: 9 (since three have to to be Archetype)

This is at level 6. The combination is up to you.

You basically have to choose a total of 3 Archetype powers between level 1 and 3 (in whichever way you wish), the rest can be but is not limited to Gifts.

[Monster]

*confused*
Ok that is still confusing me (sorry I'm a dumbass today)

So max level of powers is 12? 3 archetype the rest up to you?
ok whats the max number of powers (ontop of the required archetype) you can have per promotion?

[Thor]

It's quite simple actually :nod:

Until level 3 you have to make sure that there are 3 archtype powers in your powerscope and three dark gifts (In what order you get them is up to you. Like with level 1 you pick 2 archtype powers, level 2 you get 1 archtype power and 1 darkgift and at level 3 you pick 2 dark gifts.) After level 3 you can decide if you wanna pick another archtype power or just stick to dark gifts if you like that.

You can pick two powers per promotion. And yes in total you will have 12 powers upon reaching level 6 and one custom power, making it a grand total of 13 powers ;)

[Monster]

oh ok I get it now. I promise I get faster when I know whats goin' on lol
Thanks. ;)

[Thor]

You're welcome :D and if you have more questions ask away :nod:

[The Carer]

My question is abotu my Archtype power - Animal Affinity. I've just claimed it recently and then noticed among people that they set it clear which animal they use. Like feline and such. I was wondering do you set yourself a single animal for it and does get to be in the size of a labrador dog or in the size of a full grown pantera, since I'm level 1?

I may have missed the answer to this, but I doubt it and the following question was answered so I wanted to bring this up again. Any help, hiiiigly needed and appriciated. And I'm sorry if it sounds like a silly question but that's to you. To me, it's a biggy.

[Thor]

This question was answered before so I'm going to quote the answer if you don't mind ;)

You must pick a category of animals. So you could pick the "winged" type (that would be birds - while a fly is winged, it'd count as insect ). You need to stick to the chosen category, but you can pick a different type of bird (for example) with every time you use the power.

If you want to read more on the subject click the LINKIE (http://www.theprophecy.net/showthread.php?p=2477059#post2477059) :D

[Katherine Turner]

I have a question how does one stop telepathy? If one doesn't have psi screen?

[Monster]

Super Strength:

would Super Strength give you more power in your legs to do advances jumps etc. so you could jump higher and leap greater distances than normally possible?

[Ares]

Yeah it would, but you wouldn't have all that super-human jumps ala Spider-man. You could probably jump 2 - 3 times as far as a normal human.

[Monster]

ok Thanks.

[Monster]

sorry to double post but new question, also might help KT.
Would thinking in another language such as Japanese count as a defense against telepathy? (Heroes gave me ideas lol)

[Ares]

Well if you were fluid in both languages couldn't they just use your mind's knowledge to translate it?

[Monster]

I thought Telepathy was simply reading your conscience thoughts not accessing your skills & knowledge?

[Zendatha]

Higher level Telepathy allows you to probe the minds of others, which leads to mind control. Early levels of telepathy would work as reading thoughts and such. :nod:

And Suz, no matter what and where I look, there's no way to prevent telepathy except Psi Screen, or the Ring of Horus Amulet of Seth. (A)

[Selene]

To add to what Aod and Ste said:

Telepathy as in mind reading though it would get tricky with Japanese I do agree with Aod, it can be translated specially in higher levels. But even in lower levels all they'd have to do is "read the images in your head". Nobody just thinks of a page of words. Most people have images in their heads when thinking. I always considered mind-reading Telepathy as a way to intercept those images. I don't view Telepathy like Parkman's (Heroes) where he can't read the mind of HRG just coz the guy thinks in japanese.

Telepathy as in action control wouldn't be avoidable without Psi-Screen or the Amulet of Seth (Ring of Horus is for elemental/energy magic) or an interferance before the attack is launched as it has been stated earlier by Chrissie I think.

[Stereo Love]

If someone throws a fireball or some kind of power ball at my character, could I use Shadow Calling to call for it and then use the power for myself? IF so then would that take all my quota or would I be able to make another move?

[Zendatha]

Speaking from experience (hope the Council won't mind)

You can use shadow calling, TK, or even FGB TKO (if you borrowed it legally), to bring an opponent's attack towards you, and make it your own. This takes up your defense quota, since by 'controlling' their power ball, you prevented an attack on yourself.

Now, when you redirect it back at the opponent, via the same kind of powers mentioned above, that takes your offense quota, since you're making an attack at the opponent. However, feel free to soup up that fireball with a combo if you got the right powers for it when you send it back - it still falls within your attack quota. :D This would be the only attack move you can legally perform (but hey, its still a combo)

[Stereo Love]

Thanks Ste, that gives me a slight advantage. :D

[Gemini Six]

I have several questions about some powers I had in mind for level 2, so help would be greatly appreciated :)

1) Can Disruption blow up things like fireballs? Or does it really just mean for normal objects to be blown up?

2) I was told we can have some creativity with powers... So with Demonic Form, does our character have to acquire leathery skin or something? I was wondering if like the eyes and hair color could change... And maybe clothing. Like in Asian mythology, some demons had a normal appearance, but in demonic form, their clothes would change to robes, and their eyes and hair and make-up would change too.

3) For Curse, what happens to powers after they're not trapped? Do they continue what they were supposed to do? And does the power being trapped have to be in level size?

Thank you!

[Selene]

1) Can Disruption blow up things like fireballs? Or does it really just mean for normal objects to be blown up?

A fireball is as much of an object as the next imo but do you really wanna blow up a fireball and fill the room with tiny burning splinters?

2) I was told we can have some creativity with powers... So with Demonic Form, does our character have to acquire leathery skin or something? I was wondering if like the eyes and hair color could change... And maybe clothing. Like in Asian mythology, some demons had a normal appearance, but in demonic form, their clothes would change to robes, and their eyes and hair and make-up would change too.
As long as the changes don't give you some extra power then sure. For instance if your hair just grew longer or your eyes turned red it's ok (don't go very far away though) yet if your eyes turn red and shoot flames it ain't ok. Makes sense?

3) For Curse, what happens to powers after they're not trapped? Do they continue what they were supposed to do? And does the power being trapped have to be in level size?

Thank you!

Yes they resume their move as nothing happened unless you somehow knowck them out of course (Air, TK etc). And yes level-size applies here as well.

Welcome:)

[Tainted Soul]

My turn :-p

If you synch your aura with lightening that makes you depressed (forgot the name) would that allow you free of the status? Its a physical manifestment but it also comes with a status. So I dunno if I can or not.

And Lil, have you found out about that question of synching your aura to say a rock to be able to hide yourself? (A)

[Monster]

I have berserk and opponent has power absorption, if I'm in say speed berserk mode and they absorb it do they get my entire power or just berserk on that mode? I think I just confused myself lmao

[Selene]

My turn :-p

If you synch your aura with lightening that makes you depressed (forgot the name) would that allow you free of the status? Its a physical manifestment but it also comes with a status. So I dunno if I can or not.

And Lil, have you found out about that question of synching your aura to say a rock to be able to hide yourself? (A)


About your first question I'd say no but I may be wrong.

On your second question I still haven't heard from the others but I don't think the power is meant to work that way. Though since Aura is so not my power you may wanna ask Aod or Chrissie for verification on both.

I have berserk and opponent has power absorption, if I'm in say speed berserk mode and they absorb it do they get my entire power or just berserk on that mode? I think I just confused myself lmao

Power Absorbtion absorbs the power not a manifestation of it. So they'd absorb the Beserk scope entirely.

[Unforgiving]

Lil, I'd actually like a clarification on this question.

Someone has two powers, one of which is berserk. They activate berserk mode which means they can't access their second power. If someone with PA touches them whilst they are in berserk mode, can they absorb that second power?

[Ares]

Yeah they can. Likewise if someone has their power bound then they could still have it copied or even stolen. Just because someone can't access their power doesn't mean they don't have it.

The only exception to this is when a power is *stolen* in which case the person doesn't have the power any more.

[Unforgiving]

Thanks Aodhan.

Another question regarding Energy Projection at Level 6. The nets that can trap "objects" I'm presuming that means people as well. If so, is there anyway I can get out of this particular net from the inside? Do I still have my powers etc?

[Zendatha]

Well, its not a power, but a Spell...

Make enemy float up in the Air
*Water/Ice related power needed

Allows the spell caster to keep an opponent trapped suspended in midair.
Suspended in midair, just hanging there by a consistent flow of water, or a surge of ice, or a manifestation of water or ice is trapping the opponent in midair, like a Water Fountain, or an Ice Column? And oh, can they get out of it?

Lastly, what difference is there with the Power Trade Spell under Level Four, and To Switch Powers Spell, found in Level Three?

[Unforgiving]

Ste, the difference between the two spells, is that the Power Trade spell under level four allows you to switch only certain powers. The to Switch Powers spell under level 3 trades the entire scope up the the casters level.

[Zendatha]

And another spell question -

Can the Time Manipulation Dark Gift rewind time so that spells won't be casted? Like, if the witch had began to chant a few words, or almost the last words, then TM was activated, would the spell be countered or not?

[Selene]

Before answering on Time Manipoulation I would like to be linked in that thread if possible Ste.

[Zendatha]

[CLICKIE] (http://www.theprophecy.net/showthread.php?t=60862)

I didn't actually use Time Manipulation to reverse the spell, but I did think of it as a possibility of twisting the opponent's attack around. And since I wasn't sure, I didn't use TM, and went here to ask, for future reference of course. ;)

[Selene]

Well given the wording of the PT (yes it's my wording but doesn't mean I am any the wiser:-p) I think you can put them on a time loop to make them repeat the first verse over and over thus never completing the spell. You can improvise a bit and do a bunch of other stuff that require time rewinding (the things mentioned in the pt are just examples, you can rewind time for people and objects in general as long as you don't use it to uber-dodge). However, once the spell is completed you cannot rewind the effects. When you use Time Manipulation on someone you rewind their time not yours so in this particular case you'd still have the poison effects, coz you can't use the power on yourself (unless it is to make Temporal Attacks shorter).

Does all that make sense enough?

[Zendatha]

Yeppers, I got what you meant. :nod: Thanks Lil, its all clearer now. (Y) :bow:

TM rawks!!! :cool:

[Mercy]

Could a level two evil witch (yes witch :-p) inflict love on someone with empathy?

Thanks in advance :D.

[Thor]

could you clarify yourself a little? I mean what power are you gonna use?

[Mercy]

I said:

with empathy?

[Thor]

yeah I read it like that you meant that the other person has empathy. Word it better! :li: :-p

anyways yeah you can because love is an emotion but you can only suggest the feeling :nod:

[Anarchy]

Re: Energy Shape Shifting

"Level 1-6: You can turn into a certain type of energy for up to "level number" of posts. You gain all the pros and cons of the energy form when being in this state."

What does it mean by "certain type of energy"? Is it any kind of energy the demon chooses, or are they only able to turn into an energy they already hold in their power quota?

What I mean is, if a demon has control over fire, is this the only type of energy they can manifest themselves into?

If they have the ability to create energy balls, are they only able to manifest themslves into this energy?

Or are we able to choose any type of energy we like? :confused:

Sorry for the hundreds of questions. :-p

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Re: Entombment Spell

I have an opponent trapped inside an energy case, can I use my magick to attack him within the case?


Edit: Edited in a second question...

[Unforgiving]

By certain types of Energy, it would only be those energy forms you already have in your power scope. :nod: However, I do believe that Fire would fall under Elemental shapeshifting.

With the entombment spell, yes you can attack them. I think :-p

[Pandora]

You must possess a certain elemental power to transform into it..

Says that at the bottom of the Elemental shapeshift PT :nod: So yeah, you could only use an energy you already possess ;)

And I would think you could attack someone in an energy case, because it doesn't specify that any magic is reflected or deflected because of it, but I would defer to a Warlord on that one :D

ETA: So didn't see your post there Paul :-p

[Anarchy]

Thanks guys!

I was going to post a reply and attack a witch inside an energy case, but I wanted to ask first to be sure. :nod: Thanks again! :D

[Vanity]

I just realized that when I picked my level two powers I had picked soul switch. Now when I went back to go see how I could use the soul switch I realized that only level threes and up could have it. Is it possible I could pick a new dark gift in replace of that one?

[Selene]

Ashley, I checked with the rest of the Council and you can pick a new Dark Gift to replace Soul Switch since you can't use it:nod:

[Vanity]

ok thanks. i feel really dumb now thought for not seeing level three next to it when i picked it :-p

[Unforgiving]

Few questions regarding the Dagger of Anubis...

Can the dagger be removed from me by someone else?

What type of physical harm... just punches and kicks, or do stab wounds, and other physical items that may have been magically conjured count for this too?

[Thor]

No the dagger can't be removed from you as it also can not be copied with power absorption.

As for the physical harm I always thought it was only to protect you from physical attacks like indeed kicks and punches but I rather let a Warlord/lady answer that :)

[Selene]

Ellen is right about people nto being able to snatch the Dagger from under you or PA it.

As for the physical harm part: I always thought Anubis' Dagger works the opposite than Horus Ring, so for instance if you get stabbed with a fire dagger the Anubis gift neutralizes the stab but lets you get scorched while the Horus gift neutralizes the fire but lets you take the stab wound.

Does that answer your question Paul?

[Unforgiving]

Kind of Lil yeah, so what about people conjuring things and dropping them on my head :chin:

[Selene]

It really depends Paul. Basically the Gift takes the physical impact. Like if someone conjures a normal anvil and drops it on your head, you wouldn't get flatened, the physical impact would be neutralized. What object you had in mind and mainly made of what?

[Thor]

He means the shadow anvils with sharp edges I produced in our legion fight :-p

[Unforgiving]

No I get it now :-p Any physical object, like a sword anvil or Brick would cause no physical damage. Magical items, made from shadows or something would cause damage.

[Selene]

Wow! I actually got the word anvil right without checking your thread:wow:

But you are right, you wouldn't get a headached from the anvil dropping on your head coz the physical impact would be absorbed but the sharp edges would cut you coz shadow is energy based so you'd need the Ring of Horus to protect ya:nod:

[Mercy]

With empathy at level two, can I magnify someone's emotion? Say like frustration?

[Cardinal Sin]

Time Manipulation

- What attacks fall under the 'time attacks' category mentioned in the power tables?

- Say my character is under a mind/status attack, could I summon my clone (whose aware of the attacks gone due to Telepathy), and use Time Manipulation to rewind the effects on the original?

[Ares]

Nolita Fairytale: Yes you can magnify someone's frustration with you and it's a good way of counteracting the "suggestion" idea of level 1 - 3.

Cardinal Sin: Time Attacks count as ANY attack where by you'd be affected for a certain amount of posts.

You would not be able to summon a clone to help you as time manipulation only works on yourself.

[Constriction]

This may be a stupid question :blush: , but with illusion can you post actions at level 1? ie: Make it appear as though I threw a fireball? Or make it seem as though I am not here? Etc, etc.

[Thor]

You can make them believe you threw a fireball, like the PT says a holographic image which can't be moved after you projected it on your victim it only wouldn't damage them. Just make sure that when you create such an illusion that you are within 3 feet of your victim since that is your level range for a level 1.

[Constriction]

Thanks! But I could do so withot ut the holographic illusion? The PT says that I could create an illusion in someones head or create the holographic illusion, but if I wanted to make it appear as though I threw a fireball would a hologram be necessary?

[Ares]

No, a hologram would not be necessary but if you want more than the person you're projecting the illusion onto, you'll need to use a hologram.

[Constriction]

Ah ok, understood thanks! :nod:

[Cardinal Sin]

About Stealth, it says we can shield objects with auras too. Assuming that's done with touch, would the object still be affected with the stealth once it's no longer touched?

[Sobriquet]

I just wanted to get some clarification on this before I started to use the power:

With Voodoo is your doll immune to being TK'ed/banished/blown up etc? Basically can it be taken from your or destroyed in any way?

I'm thinking that it can't, I just wanted to be sure.

[Black Widow]

Question: With Disruption I know we can't blow up limbs until level 6 but at what level can you focus it on the body to just cause burns. I'm assuming we can do that bcause you can using DoP in the FGB which is the same sort of power. In FGB you have to be level 4 before you can focus on the body is it the same here?

Also could I blow a chunk out of the floor at level 1?

[Selene]

About Stealth, it says we can shield objects with auras too. Assuming that's done with touch, would the object still be affected with the stealth once it's no longer touched?

The aura would remain around the object for the stated amount of posts or until the level-number of posts rule terminates it.

I just wanted to get some clarification on this before I started to use the power:

With Voodoo is your doll immune to being TK'ed/banished/blown up etc? Basically can it be taken from your or destroyed in any way?

I'm thinking that it can't, I just wanted to be sure.

It can?t be blown up and it can?t be banished but it can be stolen with physical means. As for TK if they grab the doll and TK you away from it then it can be stolen but they can?t TK it from across room their way. Makes sense?
Of course you can always make another one:-p

Question: With Disruption I know we can't blow up limbs until level 6 but at what level can you focus it on the body to just cause burns. I'm assuming we can do that bcause you can using DoP in the FGB which is the same sort of power. In FGB you have to be level 4 before you can focus on the body is it the same here?

Also could I blow a chunk out of the floor at level 1?

You could blow up a small (level-size) chunk out of the floor even at level 1.

On the burns: There is no such use decided for Disruption so my initial answer is no. However I?ll bring it up with the others and get back to you.

[Infra Red]

With air, can you create a shield to repel liquids as well? (In this case, the effects of a tsunami.)

[Selene]

Mona: I doubt it would hold the effects of a tsunami. I'd suggest you use the limited levitation the power grants you to levitate above the tsunami using a stream of air.

[Infra Red]

Thanks, Lil. For future reference though, if the attack was on a smaller scale, could air repel liquids as well? I only ask since the PTs only mention physical hits.

[Cardinal Sin]

I only ask since the PTs only mention physical hits.

I believe solid powers fall under that category, so I'd say water balls/streams would be repelled by the air shield.

[Selene]

I believe solid powers fall under that category, so I'd say water balls/streams would be repelled by the air shield.

:nod: Repelled is the key word here. It's not a real shield that shields you, it's like a twirl of air: things hit it, spin around in it and fly away randomly, or at least that's how I've always pictured it.

[Constriction]

For Replica powers used directly on you can be replicated, does this mean (ie) someone tk's objects towards you can you replicate the tk still? Or does one have to tk the person in order for the other person to replicate it?

[Pandora]

I believe you could replicate the TK if it was used on you in any way, either on your person or on an object that was TK'd toward you, at least that is the way that I understand it :nod: However, you may want a warlord's input before taking this as law :-p

[Cardinal Sin]

Can I repel people with the air shield? If not, would it have any effect on my opponents at all?

[Unforgiving]

Rene, I never thought I'd see you ask a question in one of these threads again :-p

I've just reread the air PT, and seeming as you've mastered the power, and you can repel Physical hits, or use air to TK people. Im almost 99% positive you can use the shield to repel a person.

[Selene]

Does it have to be the shield? In any case you can repel anything physical really that hits the shield. Yet mind you that if said person is like hugging you the shield isn't really the best way to go coz there is no room for it to form.

A gust would be better in the above case.

[Ares]

A shield most certainly can repel people because air is physical (although not substantial enough to be TK'd, Frozen, etc. etc.). However, like Lil stated air needs air to form around you, so if someone is very close (as in bodily contact) then the air shield would form around both you and your opponent. If you want to keep people off you, it'd be best to erect the shield before contact.

[Starbuck]

Ragnhall TKs her head-and-face-first into the floor, not bothering to TK her entire body, simply focusing his TK on her head by way of her lower jaw, whiplashing her head back and downwards, creating a potential for serious neck injury as the rest of her bodyweight is dragged downward by her neck, which is bent at a steep angle backwards from the TK, thusly pinching nerves and causing at least temporary numbness and paralysis of the limbs.

Can that be done at level 2?

Can you also use intangiblity after you were psionically commanded to stab your leg with your sword, thus avoiding injury?

[Selene]

I'd say that this refined use of TK should be Level 4 up. If it was just focusing on the head to send you head first down then it would be ok coz the rest of the body would follow but the back and forth focusing on the chin and excluding the rest of the body seems too refined for level 2.

And if they word it in a way so that the person first gets Intangible and then is commanded to stab their leg then it can be done. However once the command is placed they must act on it and can't really go Intangible.

Eta:
Having read the exact post that brought up these questions: It's like I said earlier but to make it more clear: Though the TK attack could have been a bit better worded the move is ok. It took me some time but I finally managed to visualise the move as a blow on the jaw with your palm open coming from beneath. In that sense it would make your head go backwards and downwards (sorta) which would send you on your back head first. It's not the same, it wouldn't be as devestating as described above, basically coz it can't be really focused as well as a hand blow (at Level 2 anyway) but it can be done. It just needed a more straight description of the move itself and less severity on the possible consequences coz really it can't seclude the lower body following your head's move as efficiently as a hand blow would.

The Intangibility bit stands as well. When you've been mentally manipulated into an action you can't really pull that trick. If for instance he was carrying a real sword and a rubber one lets say, he could stab himself with the rubber sword coz there wasn't any referrence as to which sword he should use to stab himself (lame example but you get the point?)

[Starbuck]

Thanks for your kind expertise, Lil. Much appreciated. :D:nod:

[Drown the Demon]

Daggar of Anubis

Alright, I know it says "Protects from Physical Harm," how exactly does that work? I figure that weapons/hand strikes/kicks wouldn't cause damage like cutting, bruising and the like, but would they still have effects?

Such as, would it be possible to say, trip the person up? Like if I were to do a drop and sweep under the legs, would they still fall to the ground? I mean, I figure they'd not get any damage and wouldn't be bruised/sore or whatnot.

Or are they ENTIRELY immune? Like if I were to attempt the above move would they simply be able to just stand there?

[Unforgiving]

I can answer that :D

Since its me, I would fall. Powers all still work on me, for example I'd suffer a burn from a fireball, and fall back, but no bruising or pain from it.

The same with your trip. I'd fall, but it wouldn't hurt me. Another example, is say, an Anvil conjured from Dark Energy. The concussive effects would be none, but the energy itself is a whole different matter. Anything else?

[Drown the Demon]

Nope, that about covers it. Gracias. :D

[Thor]

for example I'd suffer a burn from a fireball, and fall back, but no bruising or pain from it.


But you will feel the pain of the burn since that's elemental power :-p

[Unforgiving]

Excuse my wording, I meant pain from the fireball and burn, but not pain from the falling back.

[Selene]

You kids know your Gifts by now:-p

Warlady confirming all the above in case anyone needed that:shrug:

[Starbuck]

The aura would remain around the object for the stated amount of posts or until the level-number of posts rule terminates it.


You have to be at least a level 3 in order to have objects you hold shielded with the stealth aura? If you're a level 2, activate stealth first, and you're holding a sword... would the sword be distorted as well or not at all?

[Selene]

It's an aura so I'd say yes. But it can't leave your hand like L3+ stealth implies.

[Constriction]

Illusions: You are able to create an illusion inside one person's head or create a visual concentrated "holographic" image for all to see within level-range, once created the image can not move. Illusions last for 1 post.

I'm assuming the 'for all to see within level--range' is talking about the holographic illusion, but to create an illusion in one's mind I don't need to be within level range do I?

[Selene]

The within level-range applies to the mass-illusion, aka only those who are x feet from the illusion can see it. As for you being within level-range it's relative: you shouldn't be in another room but being a few feet away is ok. That's the main meaning of level-range here.

[Tigris Fatalis]

Can a sonic pulse be blocked by Meteor Shield, or allowed to pass through one by means of Intangibility?
And how about a blast of heat? Thanks!

[Unforgiving]

I would imagine, and hazard a guess that much like TK, a sound pulse could not be blocked by intangibility, though I may stand corrected. As for the Meteor Shield, I'd say thats a no as well, due to the physical nature of meteor shield, though a warlord may be able to clarify.

As for heat, again something i should be able to answer but cannot be certain. I would hazard a guess that a blast of fire could be, though since a blast of heat is actually superheating the air, even though intangible it may effect you.

[Tigris Fatalis]

Thanks, Paul! :D I was thinking that the sound and heat are basically physical themselves, b/c of them being specialized air currents (air in specific state), and neither would exist in a vacuum, and thus comparable to a "blast of Air". Thanks for settin' me straight. Whew, glad you told me before I tried it. I get weird ideas sometimes, don't mind me. :-p

Power Question for future references... given that, at levels 4-6, the Pride archetype power Sacrifice allows one to use one's powers at "level + 3," would it then be possible for a lower-level character with Psionic Screen and Sacrifice to stab himself/herself, invoke Psionic Screen, thusly countering an Illusion, say, of a higher-level character, given that the lower-level is of at least 4th level (like I said, future ref only at this point, but I don't want to pick powers, and then find out that I had misunderstood them)? Or does the defense quota clause in the Psionic Screen power preclude that? Another more general question, does the "level + 3" increase the attack and defense quotas, or only the level-range/level-size/level-effects of the powers?

[Sobriquet]

Does Clone work like Split or Hades Wave from FGB power wise? If I was to have a clone would they copy an opponents powers or have mine?

[Starbuck]

It does not work like Split. The clone will have your same exact powers. They can look female or male (don't have to be exact duplicate of your character). :nod:

[Pandora]

Power Question for future references... given that, at levels 4-6, the Pride archetype power Sacrifice allows one to use one's powers at "level + 3," would it then be possible for a lower-level character with Psionic Screen and Sacrifice to stab himself/herself, invoke Psionic Screen, thusly countering an Illusion, say, of a higher-level character, given that the lower-level is of at least 4th level (like I said, future ref only at this point, but I don't want to pick powers, and then find out that I had misunderstood them)? Or does the defense quota clause in the Psionic Screen power preclude that? Another more general question, does the "level + 3" increase the attack and defense quotas, or only the level-range/level-size/level-effects of the powers?

I would think that your first scenario would work, being that your psionic screen would be at a level of 4 +3, which would actually give you the psionic screening ability of a level 6, if that's what you mean :nod:

As far as the attack/defense quota, it would remain the same as your level, since it is only the power level/range etc that is affected by the sacrifice power, not your entire level.

Of course, a Warlord would need to verify this to be sure ;)

[Tigris Fatalis]

Thanks! Muchly appreciated! And yepyep, that's right precisely what I meant. I must give some thought as to how to inflict a wound upon myself creatively, yet quickly :nod:

Another question: When the patch of quicksand (from the Quicksand spell, the Earth power, or the Sand power) expires, what happens to the folks who were trapped in it? Are they left stuck in solid ground, or are they standing on top of the ground in which they were previously trapped?

Thanks, Tee! :D

[Selene]

Well I never really pondered about it coz usually people would either escape the quicksand using all sort of magic tricks or die since they'd be sucked in the sand and breathe sand. Yet I've always thought they stay trapped. :-s It's not like the pit spits them out or anything.

[Starbuck]

In that case, nevermind me. :-p I always seemed to play out spells that way. :-s

ETA: Sorry, Mike. :$

[Selene]

eta: Sacrifice would allow your Psionic Screening to work against a higher level:nod:

About attack/defence quota using Sacrifice: I am 99% sure that when Chrissie made the table she had mentioned quotas are increased as well. I can't find the thread any more coz it's been ages since but I am fairly sure it still goes.

[Tigris Fatalis]

Thanks Lil! And npaa, Tee... thanks for respondin'... no worries at all ::thumbs-up::

[Unforgiving]

OK, so I don't think it is, but are Sound or PA energy based gifts? As in will the Horus Amulet protect El from either power?

[Thor]

Can I add something to that? Would one of the warlords be so kind to give me a list of what is an energy based power because I'm lost :-p

[Drown the Demon]

This is what I would reckon:

Energy Projection
Psionic Energy
Weapon/Armor Conjuration (since they are conjured out of energy)
Energy Clone Balls
Thread
Blue Torment
Red Torment
Solidify
Energy Bow
Energy Shape-shifting (would be immune to attacks by someone in Energy form unless they use some sort of non-energy attacks, which would make changing into an Energy form pretty pointless :-p)
Energy Shockwave
Kinetic Absorption (If the powers returned are Energy blasts)


And if the following powers are being combined with Energy Uses:

Solid Aura
Synergy (again, this would infer that at least one of the powers was Energy based. Figure the effects against the energy power would be negated, but the non-energy power would still have effects)


I'm pretty sure that's the complete list. :nod: As for PA, I think it can still be used. Sound...Not totally sure on that count.

[Cardinal Sin]

I don't think Sound falls under the energy category, cause, well, sound waves aren't energy. :-p

About Berserk, the PTs mention strength twice, is one of them meant to say speed?

[Dark and Twisty]

What is the difference between these two powers?

Super Ability: Think and run faster than a normal human.
Time Trade: Move at unimaginable speed.

[Drown the Demon]

Super Ability: You're actually running fast and you think quickly enough to be able to avoid attacks.

Time Trade: You're not actually running fast per se. Time is altered for you where you see everything in slow motion, while you run at regular speed. Everyone else sees you running fast.


Essentially, they have the same effects, but with different means of achieving what you want.

[Dark and Twisty]

Thanks Codi

[Stereo Love]

With Shadow Calling; at later levels could I call for someone and not a something? :D

[Cardinal Sin]

Shadow Calling is limited to objects.

[Stereo Love]

OKies; wanted to know for powerscope/restart reasons. :elol:

[Drown the Demon]

Ok, couple q's.

1. Concerning the summon power. Granted, I understand we wouldn't be allowed to have more than one summon out at a time due to 2vs1 rule, but are we allowed to have more than one summon?

Like, for example, I may bring out a dragon for a post and later on in the thread, a Fenrir and maybe later a Phoenix?

I've seen people have only one. I've seen others with two or even three. But would we be allowed to summon them all with that talisman? Also, along those lines, the PTs also state that when a summon is killed, we can't bring it out again. So say the Fenrir is killed and we are allowed to have more summons. I suppose the Dragon, Cereberus and/or Phoenix is still available?

Unless there's some unstated level restrictions on number of summons...

2. When a Guide/Warlord comes in to heal a dead/dying player, I was under the assumption that while the others can't attack the Guide/Warlord or copy powers via PA, Split or any other power copy, they weren't supposed to attack the other members either. That this was some sort of mutual understanding. We don't interfere with the healing, they don't interfere with the fight.

However, I do understand there'd be certain exceptions. Like perhaps they need to set up defenses for the one they intend to heal and/or hold off the attacker (again, for defensive purposes only). I haven't seen any rules written anywhere on it, so I figured to double-check on the exact healing protocol for both the leaders and the members.

[Thor]

as for the first answer one summon per thread :nod: I checked with the warlords and you just have to see a summon like a clone and since you only have one clone you can only use the same summon in a thread. So if he/she dies then you're out of a second partner ;)

as for your second question I know that sometimes a Guide/Warlord needs to make room to heal the person properly but in a way they don't inter fear with the fight. So indeed no attacking other members by freezing them or punching them in the face :-p

[Cardinal Sin]

About Intangibility, can I use the power Shadowcat style? Say, I'm flung through the air, I turn intangible and go through the ground and then I emerge from under the ground on the floor again? If that didn't make any sense think X-Men: The Last Stand.

[Tigris Fatalis]

About "The Siren's Curse" (level 2 spell), under the effects for the spell, the Grimoire states that the target is "in a trance" and "under the caster's spell." Does this mean that the caster will give the target verbal commands, and they will be obeyed, or is this more like Telepathy/Hypnotism/Possession, where either the target's body is controlled or the command is mental?

[Stereo Love]

Mike; I'd have to say that the spell would let you control them for how ever long to spell lasted. The siren is someone who could make people fall into their command so yeah.

Just wait for someone to either correct it or to say 'Yeah that's correct'. :elol:

[Tigris Fatalis]

Well, I worded that all messed up :-p.... what I meant was, which is it? Mental command, verbal command, or bodily possession? I can't remember exactly which it is that a siren is supposed to do? Thanks, Kie, btw.... not your fault I messed up my own freakin' question (Y) :D


[eta] Thanks again, Kie and Jen :nod:
[eta II] and Lil :D

[Stereo Love]

I'd have to say Mental and Verbal Commands; That's cool though Mike. :nod:

[Pandora]

Rene: I don't think that is possible, but let me check on that for you, okay, because I'm not sure :-p

Mike: I believe Siren would be verbal commands ;) Because the Siren used her voice to lure people into doing things, so that only makes sense to me :nod:

[Selene]

I second Jen on the Siren spell.

Rene do you use Air to fly or Levitation?

[Drown the Demon]

I recall someone asking about this, possibly in the Banter thread or possibly over IM, but is it possible for an intangible person to touch another intangible person?

For that matter, is possible for an intangible person to touch him/herself for whatever reason? (considering various moves of attack and whatnot, saying if a person was ordered to punch their own leg hard enough to break the bone, but also assuming the one giving the order forgot to tell the person to return to being solid.

Also, if a person holds out their hand and somehow manages to create a snowball (like with the ice power or something), would it just drop to the ground, or could they still eject it away from their body?

[Thor]

If you're intangible, you're intangible and depending if you're just phasing or letting objects through "level number" of objects will go through as the power states. So touching somebody in the phase state isn't going to work because there isn't a corporeal body to touch :)

as for the ice question and correct me if I'm wrong... All ice bolts and beams are instantly ejected from your hand as for manifestations like snowballs created in your hand you have to throw those yourself or use TK to make sure they hit the opponent :nod:

[Pandora]

You are right El, and I agree with all you have said :)

[Tigris Fatalis]

Ok, another question: If I turn someone with Time Manipulation into a cat or toad, does TM reduce the number of posts that they spend in cat or toad form? I ask this b/c even though TM at higher level does reduce number of posts for attacks that last for a number of posts, cats (and thus toads, I assume), per the Rendevous FAQ, have no powers, which would include TM, I'd guess. Thanks in advance! :nod:

[eta] Yep, that was exactly what I was askin'. Thanks Jen! :nod:

[Pandora]

Let me be sure I understand what you are asking:

Your opponent has the power of Time Manipulation. You turn them into a cat or toad, correct?

If this is the case, unless they time their counter attack to occur in the few seconds before they turn into a cat/toad (which would be extremely hard to do but not impossible) then they would have no powers once they were turned into an animal because animals do not have magic. So you are correct :nod:

[Tigris Fatalis]

I can predict the future: you will, eventually, come to hate me :elol:. More questions: What exactly are the effects of the Sin Ball spell, should one be fortunate enough to actually *hit* someone with one of those? Do they mirror the effects of the Transfusion: <Sin> powers in the Archetype PTs (example, does a ball of Pride created by the spell have the same effect as one created by Transfusion: Pride, for my level)? Also, can we make a ball of Sin of an Archetype not our own (example: my character is a pride demon. could he make, say, a Greed ball, or is he limited to Pride balls?)?

[eta] Thanks, Ellen! So, it's more like a low-level Astral Scout :-p.

[Thor]

The spell is not related to the sin transfusion powers. But they have a similar effect. Like if you hit somebody with a pride ball they will be overwhelmed with pride and so on. Only thing you can not do is be exact over what they feel pride over. Or to whom they are lusty, they just feel lusty. So it can take out for the wrong as well if you don't watch out :elol:

And yes you can make a sinball not related to your own sin so if you're pride you can make a lust ball or a greed or a ...

[Sobriquet]

Can Gas Manipulation be used as a projectile as well? So, could I combine Summoning with GM to make my summon fire gas projeciles at people?

[Pandora]

Yes, and Yes :nod:

[Tigris Fatalis]

Okies... another funny one.... say you're casting a spell, and deliberately stop before the last word in order to synch up some timing with something else. Providing that you say nothing in between, can you wait a couple seconds and then speak the last word and have the spell still work, providing that you speak the word in the same post (or even:idea: , *not* in the same post, given no verbalizations between)? I just did this in a VQ for RP purposes (sorry if that was too much liberty to take, there), but then the applications in fights started to strike me, so I have to ask. Thanks in advance again! :nod:

[eta] Thanks again, Jen! :D

[Pandora]

I would say that you could pause for dramatic effect, but beyond that, the spell needs to be said all together. Plus if you pause, you give your opponent the chance to stop you before you even finish, and if that's not something you want, you'd be better off just saying it all at once ;) And I think in order for it to work, it needs to be completed within one post :nod:

[Tigris Fatalis]

Okies... question from someone who's never had a Clone or Split or Astral anything before (yeah, that's me :-p). In the PTs, the listing for Astral Scout states that the Scout cannot use solid powers.... can I take this to mean that it can, indeed, make use of such powers as Animal Affinity, Telekinesis, and Super Speed, as these powers have no solid manifestation? Or even Sound, perchance? Or the usage of Fire that simply heats the air w/o creating a fireball or wall or other solid manifestation? Thanks! :D

[eta]Thankies much, Jen! :nod:

[Pandora]

Sounds like you got it right Mike ;) So yeah, your astral scout couldn't do something like conjuring or meteor because those are solid powers :nod:

[A New Legacy Begins]

Um, BL, or whatever your name is, is it possible for a Trainee Demon to have the power to Shimmer into/out of threads, I mean as a basic power?

[Pandora]

Yes, that's a basic power that comes with being a demon. Anything beyond that (aside from Trainee spells) you have to be a level 1 or above to use :nod:

[A New Legacy Begins]

Thank's for clearing that up because I was so confused.

[Tigris Fatalis]

Hey, me again :wave:. Is it possible to smell an intangible person, providing, of course that one has some means of scenting them? Like if the intangible person smelled like Limberger cheese, or if the person who could hypothetically smell them had Keen Senses, or Animal Affinity (some animal with excellent scent capability)? Thanks! :D

[eta]Thanks Jen! I needed that b/c they also went invisible, specifically :-p lol And yep, there's a specific smell about them. :D Oh, you *are* right.... I didn't think to mention that, b/c it wasn't the thingie that would've possibly blocked my nose lol. My bad :|

[Pandora]

I would assume that they would still smell. That would be a tough call to make though, unless they specifically said that they had eaten Limberger cheese for lunch or something :hehe: Intangible doesn't necessarily mean invisible... it means stuff passes through them, so I'm not sure why you'd need to smell them in the first place? :chin:

ETA: Well Mike, you didn't tell me they went invisible too! :-p I'm all powerful and shiz, but not THAT all powerful :hehe:

[Tigris Fatalis]

Hey, me again :wave:. Can an Astral Scout cast spells? So long as it's not a spell that conjures something solid (like call a level-sized object or whatever)? Thanks in advance! :nod:

[eta] Yeah, I found out on the previous page that it can use some powers... just still not sure about spells, b/c I'm not sure if it can speak? :shrug: lol Wow, *lots* of responses.... Thanks *everybody!* lol

[Cardinal Sin]

My guess is not, since it can already manipulate senses, influence minds, and it's invisible and intangible too.

[Starbuck]

I remember Chrissie said at one time that Astral Scouts are allowed to use mental/status powers.. not sure about spells. :chin:

[Selene]

The Scout is intangible and invisible to everyone, therefore is unable to use solid powers. The scout can sense feelings in others and manipulate these for "level number" of posts or as long as it lasts - whichever ends sooner.

When the power was made it was meant to work like Cupid with the ring. I don't recall anything about using other mental/status powers the actual character may possess:-s If you could find that post from Chrissie I'd really appreciate it.

About spells in particular: No, Astral Scouts aren't clones nor Astral Projections, they work exactly as described in the table.

[Walking Softly]

I just read through the thread (catching up on power questions since I've been gone) and didn't spot an answer by Chrissie. I did, however, find a response (http://www.theprophecy.net/showthread.php?p=2556882#post2556882) from Jen after Mike's post. The way I understood the response, it meant the Scout could use powers that are mental/status like. But I always thought the Scout would only be able to linger around the target to manipulate the feelings of the target, similar to empathy. And not actually use any powers, whether they're solid based or not.

A good way I had it envisioned in my head was how Barbas used to influence the Halliwells. He was there, influencing them, but they weren't entirely aware of it at the time. Is my way of explanation correct, or way off?

eta Chance (A New Legacy Begins), Beautiful Lie's name is Jen. If you're ever unsure of someone's name, you can check their profile or even the Demonic Roster (http://www.theprophecy.net/showthread.php?t=55912) for reference :nod:.

[Selene]

I am not sure they'd realise it even later that they had been manipulated but you are right, it works like Barbas or even Cupid (am I the only one to remember Cupid's ring?:-p)

I read Jen's response and she says they can't conjure solid stuff so she is right:nod: Doesn't mention anything about using other powers. Chrissie had created that pt that's why I wanted to see where she had posted they can use other powers but as far as I remember (coz I had asked back then how the power works exactly) it works just like it states in the pt: only affects feelings.

[Stereo Love]

With Shadow Calling; if someone throws a elemental ball or energy ball at me and I call for it.

Could I then use it on my attacker or would it actually still hurt me?

[Selene]

Shadow Calling work just like TKO (minus the TK move Paige used to do later on to send it against someone). You could call it to manifest next to you but how would you send it against someone else? If you have Air or TK you can use it against someone else but touch it would hurt you.

[Cardinal Sin]

Astral Scout - when it mentions 'manipulating feelings', is it like Empathy? Can you direct those feelings towards someone/something?

[Selene]

I'd say yes, mainly level 4 up when the power naturally would get more refined.

[Cardinal Sin]

So could a level 2 multiply a feeling that someone is already feeling and direct it to the same person that is feeling the emotion? Damn, I confused myself there. :-p

I'll link ya. CLICK! (http://www.theprophecy.net/showthread.php?p=2558463#post2558463)

[Walking Softly]

In easier terms, you're asking if person 1 can enhance/use person 2's feelings on themself (person 2) yes? The PT states "The scout can sense feelings in others and manipulate these" and the way I read it is that the Astral Scout was directly affecting the target. So if the target is feeling some frustration, the Scout works the magic and that target becomes even more frustrated. You'll need a Warlord to confirm this of course, but that's how I imagine it.

In the Graveyard case I believe what Mike did with the rage, enhancing it, was fine. That said, it probably would not be "a thousand fold" and how Caspiel reacts to that wouldn't be able to be specified (eg. turning the weapon upon himself), but rather just suggested.

[off topic] Lil, I remember Cupid :). But the second one (Coop) in Season 8, hot! [/off topic]

[Cardinal Sin]

Thanks, I was just wondering about the whole thousand fold and telling me to stab myself.

*is off to reply*

[Selene]

Yeah, they can't say "stab yourself". Scouts don't work that precisely and especially not in that level. But they can make ya really really frustrated, even suggest you are frustrated at yourself, though to really turn the frustration to yourself alone I'd insist ont he higher level of the caster. How you'd channel this frustration is mainly up to you, I cry for instance when frustrated, or eat, or curse my sister, or curl to a fetus position. Others bang their heads on the wall or pick up fights.

[Tigris Fatalis]

Hey, another question from me.... :wave: (my bad there, Rene, btw).... How does Super Speed compare to Time Trade? It's been asked, and the only thing I remember was that it was said that it's just a diff way to do the same thing?

[Tigris Fatalis]

*double-posts* Hey, I've got another question: I realize that this is *really* splitting hairs, but it's like 0300 over here, and I'm dreamin' up weird stuffy. Now, the question.... The Sound power states that it has no effect on canine/feline creatures.... I'm assuming (perhaps erroneously) that this is due to the range of hearing of such creatures. Since the Animal Affinity power grants me (specifically) the enhanced senses of a tiger (feline creature), am I affected by Sound? I realize that it would definitely blank out any sound coming out of my mouth, but would AA save me from being knocked unconscious by a higher-level's usage of the Sound power, providing that my AA was active at the time? Thanks in advance! :nod:

[eta] Please don't miss my question in the last postie on the previous page (dratted page break :(), and thanks for checkin' for me, Lea. I'll be watchin' for it :nod:

[Walking Softly]

Providing that your feline AA was activated at the time, I would say yes, you are unaffected. But I will double check with Lil and edit this post.

eta Either the question slipped through the cracks and went unconfirmed in my PM, or my answer was fine.

[Stereo Love]

If I was to create a meteor and then shoot a tendril onto it to make it into a weapon; would I then be able to use that weapon within the same post?

[Selene]

Well yes. And you'd actually make a darn pretty good combo:wow:

:wow: Seriously impressed here.

For future reference: When you use a power or two to create a weapon like in your case, the quota isn't deduct because you created the weapon but because you use it. It's not a blanket rule coz if you had created the weapon to use it in the next post you'd still lose the quota here but you understand what I'm trying to say? Creating an object deducts quota from the intended use. You may shoot a tendril as an attack to me or to defend from an attack I made. A tendril is always a tendril but when we count quota in the first case it will count towards the attack quota while in the second towards defense.

[Drown the Demon]

The Mist ability says it distorts vision and can cause coughing fits. Obviously, it would affect anyone within range of the caster, but how would it also affect the caster? I'm assuming their vision would also be distorted (unless they can somehow see through it), but would they also be subject to the coughing fits (and hallucinations at a later level) considering that since they are obviously near it and would likely be breathing it in as well?

In such case, I would suppose it would be a good idea to remember to hold one's breath before using the power, though said person would be in deep if s/he decided to use it for a full 6 posts at level 6. :-p

[Stereo Love]

Well yes. And you'd actually make a darn pretty good combo:wow:

:wow: Seriously impressed here.

For future reference: When you use a power or two to create a weapon like in your case, the quota isn't deduct because you created the weapon but because you use it. It's not a blanket rule coz if you had created the weapon to use it in the next post you'd still lose the quota here but you understand what I'm trying to say? Creating an object deducts quota from the intended use. You may shoot a tendril as an attack to me or to defend from an attack I made. A tendril is always a tendril but when we count quota in the first case it will count towards the attack quota while in the second towards defense.

Kinda got confused but I'm taking a guess and guessing that I can do what I wanted to know?

[Pandora]

The Mist ability says it distorts vision and can cause coughing fits. Obviously, it would affect anyone within range of the caster, but how would it also affect the caster? I'm assuming their vision would also be distorted (unless they can somehow see through it), but would they also be subject to the coughing fits (and hallucinations at a later level) considering that since they are obviously near it and would likely be breathing it in as well?

In such case, I would suppose it would be a good idea to remember to hold one's breath before using the power, though said person would be in deep if s/he decided to use it for a full 6 posts at level 6. :-p

Well, my personal take on this is that you would be immune to it... kinda like you are immune to being burned by your own fireball when you create it in your hand? :nod:

[Selene]

Kinda got confused but I'm taking a guess and guessing that I can do what I wanted to know?


Yes, you can.

[Stereo Love]

Right thankies Lil; By the way another question or two.... :D Sorry.

With Magnetism could I say control a piece of metal on someone and make it dig into them to hurt them?

[Walking Softly]

How does Super Speed compare to Time Trade? It's been asked, and the only thing I remember was that it was said that it's just a diff way to do the same thing?Time Trade works for a very limited amount of real time (1 or 2 seconds). The person using it gets to move "at unimaginable speed" while the other person has not actually had time change for them. It's like the user moving through time 1 or 2 seconds ahead of everyone else. Super speed, on the other had, causes you to move fast (though it is related to your level number) but time keeps going for everyone else. That answer your question?

Kie, if you can control the metal piece then yes, of course you can :). Providing that they can't counter the attack or shield themself. I'd say if the weapon was on them, like a dagger on a belt, then the attack is *likely* to work.

[Selene]

Right thankies Lil; By the way another question or two.... :D Sorry.

With Magnetism could I say control a piece of metal on someone and make it dig into them to hurt them?


Welcome. About Magnetism: You can control metal and thus a weapon made of metal as if you had TK lets say. But at lower levels try not to make your moves very refined. Control and refined use of all powers grows with leve.

Hey, another question from me.... :wave: (my bad there, Rene, btw).... How does Super Speed compare to Time Trade? It's been asked, and the only thing I remember was that it was said that it's just a diff way to do the same thing?

They are a bit different as to the result delivered.

Time trade: allows you to move at unimaginable speed. It's like a flash. And has a limited allowed time: For levels 1-3 you can summon it for just 1 post while at levels 4-6 2 posts.

Super speed: You don't move that fast. You move like a mortal your-levelx2. You never reach speed Time Trade does (it's like comparing a car to a plane that travels faster than sound) but you can use the power for up to 6 posts.